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AI Experts Debate Whether Machines Could Ever Match Human Intelligence at RSA Event

13.11.2024

On  31 October 2024,  a lively and thought-provoking panel on “Might AI be as Intelligent as Humans?” took place at RSA House in London, exploring AI’s evolving role in society, its ethical implications, and whether machines can ever truly replicate human intelligence.

The event brought together a panel of AI experts, including: 

Jeremy Peckham, AI entrepreneur & commissioner at the AIFCS.
Dr. Kate Devlin, Professor of AI & Society at King's College London and commissioner at the AIFCS.
Adam Naisbitt, an AI marketing entrepreneur.

Key Discussion Points:

Trust in AI vs. AI Companies: Kate Devlin highlighted that while AI itself may be reliable in terms of processing and intelligence, the companies developing AI are driven by profit, which can compromise data privacy and user safety. Users are often unaware that their data shared with chatbots returns to these companies, raising ethical concerns over sensitive data.

Human vs. Artificial Intelligence: Jeremy Peckham noted a shift in ethical standards, where companies now frequently use copyrighted data without permission—a shift from earlier norms that respected data ownership. He argued this “forgiveness over permission” mindset creates more ethical questions than ever before.

AI in Marketing and Manipulation: Adam Naisbitt discussed the potential for AI in levelling the playing field in marketing for economically disadvantaged regions, as AI can offer strategic advice previously available only through costly consultants. However, he raised concerns over where marketing ends and manipulation begins, noting that AI has enabled a rise in ineffective or even deceptive marketing tactics.

Scamming and Radicalisation Risks: With AI’s capability to form relationships, Adam warned that AI can easily be used to groom or radicalise individuals, as scammers and extremists could leverage AI’s personalisation capabilities to build trust and manipulate vulnerable users.

Big Tech vs. Government Regulations: Kate argued that regulation of AI is inadequate, especially with respect to powerful technologies like autonomous weapons. She also pointed out AI’s environmental impact, with significant energy and water use for each AI transaction, adding to concerns over sustainability. Jeremy added that proper regulation could support rather than stifle innovation.

Creativity and AI: The panellists questioned AI’s potential for genuine creativity. Adam contended that creativity should serve a purpose rather than be pursued for its own sake in AI, while Jeremy emphasised that AI merely mimics human behaviour without intrinsic understanding or expression.

Possibility of AI “Coming Alive”: Jeremy dismissed the idea, asserting human uniqueness, while Kate expressed scepticism, linking consciousness to phenomena that AI lacks. Adam warned that we as humans should always consider this a possibility so that it regulates the way we engage with AI.

Transparency and Trust in AI Systems: Adam compared AI trust to that of a calculator, which we use and rely on without question because of our understanding of how it works, and generations of built trust. In AI, we lack understanding of the “black box” mechanics behind AI systems. Jeremy questioned where moral responsibility lies, pointing out that artefacts like AI lack intrinsic agency.

AI’s Role in Developing Economies: Jeremy and Kate both noted AI’s potential in agriculture and education in less economically developed countries (LEDCs), but they also expressed concerns about exploitative practices by tech giants, which rarely prioritise the needs of these regions. Adam added that while AI can democratise opportunities, increased competition may challenge local markets, because it results in their competing with MEDC markets

Legal and Ethical Decision-Making: Jeremy raised concerns about judges using AI for rulings, as these systems prioritise efficiency over human ethical reasoning, underlining the importance of human judgement and appeals in critical decisions.

Bias and Limitations in AI: Kate pointed out that while large language models (LLMs) accumulate vast knowledge, they amplify human biases instead of reducing them. Jeremy agreed, noting that AI companies rarely acknowledge data biases in their models, which the commission is assessing as a risk to humanity

The panellists concurred on the need for transparency, ethical oversight, and equitable development practices, as big tech companies’ advancements continue to outpace public sector regulation, leaving governments and civil society with the challenge of managing AI’s societal impact.

Reflecting on the event, Jeremy Peckham remarked that it was a lively and engaging discussion, attendees posed insightful questions and a diverse range of opinions were shared. The event was highly attended and the feedback received from attendees was overwhelmingly positive.
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AI Experts Debate Whether Machines Could Ever Match Human Intelligence at RSA Event

On 31 October 2024, a lively and thought-provoking panel on “Might AI be as Intelligent as Humans?” took place at RSA House in London, exploring AI’s evolving role in society, its ethical implications, and whether machines can ever truly replicate human intelligence.

The Commission is proud to announce three new members of our Associates Programme, that aims to create a collaborative community of individuals and organisations interested in the intersection of AI, faith, and civil society. They will have the opportunity to participate in Commission events, contribute to discussions, and showcase their AI-related work on the Commission's platform.

Dr Chinmay Pandya is the Editor of the Dev Sanskriti, an Interdisciplinary International Journal that addresses a abroad range of Indian intellectual interests and religious pedagogies. He is responsible to guide the ethos, academic rigour and policy implementation at DSVV. Dr Pandya is also the Chairperson of the International Festival of Yoga, Culture and Spirituality and has convened more than two hundred national and international colloquia at DSVV; and is the Co-founder of the First Centre for Baltic Culture and Studies of Asia, Founder of the South Asian Institute for Peace & Reconciliation and a Member of the ICCR Governing Council


Dr Nathan Mladin is a Senior Researcher at the think tank Theos in London. His research, speaking and writing focus on technology ethics and theology of culture. He holds a PhD in Systematic Theology from Queen’s University Belfast and is the author of several publications, including Data and Dignity: Why Privacy Matters in the Digital Age (Theos, 2023) and AI and the Afterlife: From Digital Mourning to Mind Uploading (Theos, 2024). He is also author of ‘The Question of Surveillance Capitalism’ (with Stephen N Williams), a chapter in The Robot Will See You Now: Artificial Intelligence and the Christian Faith (SPCK, 2021).


Prof Dr Beth Singler is the Assistant Professor in Digital Religion(s) and co-lead of the Media Existential Encounters and Evolving Technology Lab at the University of Zurich where she leads projects on religion and AI. As an anthropologist, her research focusses on the human, and considers the religious, cultural, social, and ethical implications of developments in AI and robotics.  Her research has been recognised with awards, including the 2021 Digital Religion Research Award from the Network for New Media, Religion, and Digital Culture Studies. Her popular science communication work includes a series of award-winning short documentaries on AI, writing and presenting a BBC Radio 4 documentary on the cultural impact of The Terminator forty years on, popular publications, science festival talks, press interviews, and international media appearances. Beth has spoken about her research at Greenbelt, at the Hay Festival as one of the Hay 30 to watch, as well as at New Scientist Live, Ars Electronica, the Edinburgh Science Festival, the Cheltenham Science Festival, and has appeared several times on BBC Click and BBC Click Live, and on BBC Radio 3 for the Year of Blade Runner. She is co-editor of the Cambridge Companion to Religion and AI (2024) and author of Religion and AI: An Introduction (2024). Her publications, interviews, and talks are all available at bvlsingler.com.

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